If the Nazi had served in the SS, then he would be shot

QUENTIN Tarantino's latest film, Inglourious Basterds, may be set in an alternate universe.

But for people like Cyril Pundick, there is a ring of truth to the story of elite Jewish commandos hunting down and killing Nazis.

Mr Pundick, of Manchester, was a member of the Jewish Brigade which was formed towards the end of the Second World War - to exact revenge for the Holocaust.

The brigade had the backing of Winston Churchill, who declared: "The Jews of all races have the right to strike at the Germans as a recognisable body."

And American President Franklin Roosevelt formed the Jewish Infantry Brigade, who served with the British Army in the latter stages of the Second World War.

Born in Salford, of Polish Jewish descent, Mr Pundick originally joined the Army Service Corps in 1939 and served in Libya and North Africa for almost five year.

In 1943 he transferred to a Jewish Palestinian company, which became part of the Jewish Brigade the following year.

When Mr Pundick and his pals found a Nazi, they interrogated them.
He explained: "While this was going on, I stood outside the Nazi's house making sure their girlfriends did not interfere."Most of these boys were Jews from eastern and central Europe whose families had been killed by the Nazis and they wanted their revenge," the 90-year-old told the Jewish Telegraph.

Mr Pundick's group was stationed in Tarvisio, near Italy's border with Austria.

He was a dispatch rider and searched for Nazis in the mountains around Tarvisio with two other Jews who had lost their families in the camps.

He recalled: "I went looking for Nazis with two German Jewish boys called Bobby Ackerfeld and Hans Wald.

"Bobby was an amateur boxer and very handsome and being so good-looking, it helped him gain information from the Nazi's Italian girlfriends."

Of his time in Libya, Mr Pundick recalled: "I was part of a second armoured division which relieved a seventh armour division in Tripoli, Libya.

"This was in 1944. I noticed there were a number of vehicles with Star of Davids painted on them, which I was excited about."

Mr Pundick, who is married to Irene, found out that the vehicles belonged to a Jewish company, which later became part of the newly-formed Jewish Brigade.Information regarding the whereabouts of these killers was either gathered by torturing imprisoned Nazis or from military connections.

When Mr Pundick and his pals found a Nazi, they interrogated them.

He explained: "While this was going on, I stood outside the Nazi's house making sure their girlfriends did not interfere.

"If the Nazi had served in the SS, he would be shot, but if he had been a member of the regular army, he wouldn't be."

After the war members of the Jewish Brigade formed assassination squads in order to execute former Wehrmacht and SS officers.

Information regarding the whereabouts of these killers was either gathered by torturing imprisoned Nazis or from military connections. continues here

Recent Films Make Jews the Victors

Talk about an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.

In Quentin Tarantino's blood-soaked new film "Inglourious Basterds," Brad Pitt and his merry band of Jewish soldiers bash Nazi soldiers' heads with a baseball bat and collect their scalps in a bid to avenge their people and stop the Holocaust.

At its roots, Tarantino's World War II fantasy and its orgy of violence are little more than cartoonish savagery and perhaps a cathartic experience for some Jewish viewers. It's a sort of reverse form of Schadenfreude: Jews giving Nazis the ultimate taste of their own medicine.

Yet the film also represents a growing genre of Jewish-themed films in which the victims become the victors.

But does Judaism condone such raging retribution? Rabbis and academics point out that Judaism distinguishes between acts of self-defense and vengeance and Jewish law frowns upon torturing an enemy - even Adolf Hitler himself, said Rabbi Joel Roth, a professor at Jewish Theological Seminary in New York.

"On the other hand, I also understand the human emotion," he said. "Dispassionately, do you want to see them scalped? No, but you have to consider the context. And, if it's a greater deterrent that would save other people's lives, maybe one could defend it."

Rabbi Irwin Kula, president of the National Jewish Center for Learning and Leadership, a New York-based Jewish think tank, heralds the film as a long-overdue "fun action Jewish-revenge fantasy." Roth, meanwhile, wonders about a backlash from depicting Jews as "more Goliath than David," giving more fodder to those who see Israel as an aggressor and oppressor, rather than a haven for survivors of centuries of persecution.

Yet anti-Semites weren't swayed by films like "Schindler's List" or "The Diary of Anne Frank" that focused wholly on Jewish suffering, noted Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, a global Jewish human rights organization named for a Holocaust survivor who helped bring Nazis to trial after World War II.

Cooper hasn't seen "Inglourious Basterds" yet, but said it seems like a fitting addition to the emerging genre of celebrated Jewish resistance, including last year's "Defiance," about a community of Jews who found refuge in a Belarusian forest during the Holocaust, and 2005's "Munich," about efforts to assassinate Arab terrorists who killed Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympics.

This evolution may be due to changing (internal and external) perceptions about Jewish strength, given Israel's military victories in the decades since the Holocaust, he and Roth speculated. It has also taken longer for heroic tales like "Defiance" to come out - either because of modesty or due to concerns about accuracy.

In addition to being completely fictional, the big shift with "Basterds" is that its glorified brutality contradicts the cautionary message of those previous films - that revenge, even if justified, is ultimately destructive to those who seek it, said Antony Polonsky, a Holocaust studies professor at Brandeis University in Waltham, Mass.

"I don't think there is one view among Jews about these matters," he said. "Immediately after the war, there were different views among those who survived the attempted Nazi genocide. But, the strongest view was that to seek revenge by murder was to lower yourself to the level of the murderers."

Even Wiesenthal, the famed "Nazi hunter," believed in "justice, not vengeance" right up until his death in 2005, Cooper said. He refused to help Jews track Nazis down for their own purposes, or to harm their family members.

"He said we need convicted criminals, not martyrs for a cause," Cooper said.

During the Holocaust and in other times when Jews are actively threatened by their enemies, however, Cooper believes some vengeance is permissible, if not encouraged.

"I don't think there's moral ambiguity at all," he said. "Unlike in the Christian tradition of turning the other cheek, in Jewish law, if somebody comes at you with a knife to kill you, you are required to defend yourself and, if necessary, kill that person first. If your entire community is being threatened with annihilation, then you have a mitzvah (a moral obligation) to shoot these people down."continues here

HOW I LED AN ISREAL DEATH SQUAD AGAINST NAZI BUTCHER

THE ORGANISATION I joined was christened The Owl because owls hunt rats, our term for Nazis. It was created by survivors of the Holocaust who came from wealthy families and were well known in business circles.

They benefited, behind the scenes, from widespread and powerful support.

Members led a double life. While keeping up the façade of respectable businessmen, they waged a secret and ruthless war, tracking down Nazi war criminals who believed they were safe from human judgment.

This organisation of avengers had judged and executed the members of Shock Squadron 5 that had, under the leadership of Zorbach, Namsila and Lichtanker, massacred tens of thousands of Balkan Jews, including some of the relations of the founders of The Owl.

Other particularly bloody Nazi brutes, members of the fascist Arrow Cross Party, which reigned in Hungary during the war,paid for their crimes by meeting the same fate.

All the members of The Owl were Jewish. Many had survived the Holocaust, the names of my companions in arms have been disguised in order not to break the confidentiality of our organisation, which benefited from a limitless budget worthy of the largest secret services.“There is only one reason that the inquiry was to be heard in private and that is to protect past and present members of this Government.”

The facts I recount however are rigorously true but for reasons of confidentiality I omitted certain episodes.

“Remember, do not forgive, pursue step by step.”

That was the command given by The Owl and it perfectly sums up its character and mission.

At the end of the Eighties, having achieved most of its goals and, above all, fearing that its existence would eventually be exposed, the group decided to put an end to its activities.

Like all my comrades I was experienced in the techniques of secret warfare. I had taken part in the Yom Kippur war as a captain.

I had carried out several missions in Africa, the US and France. I also carried out missions in the Congo and in the Nineties trained special units of the Ethiopian army with a plan to save Ethiopian Jews.

I decided to recount my story of the hunt for Heim because of my children. Several Performing a partial U-turn he concedes what most sensible people will have been thinking all along.

Where possible the inquiry must be held in public. Only material that puts our national security at risk should be withheld.

Mr Brown has also conceded to a key opposition demand that witnesses can be made to swear on oath to tell the truth.

Air Marshal Sir John Walker, former Head of Defence intelligence, said: “There is only one reason that the inquiry was to be heard in private and that is to protect past and present members of this Government.”

Meanwhile, in a devastating comment on the Government’s plan not to publish the findings of the inquiry until after the election, Lord Butler, the former Cabinet Secretary, said: “I reluctantly conclude that the form of the inquiry proposed by the Government has been dictated more by the Government’s political interest than the national interest and it cannot achieve the purpose of purging mistrust.”

No wonder senior Labour figures are in despair that an announcement designed as a key part of Mr Brown’s political fightback has turned into a complete disaster.

Years ago my daughter was preparing for a school trip to Auschwitz. Before she left, our family watched a documentary about the Holocaust.

By the end of it she was overcome with emotion. Seeing her tears I said to myself that I owed it to her to tell my story, so that she would know that men had once risen up against forgetting and forgiveness.

I wanted my children to be proud of what we did.

ARIBERT HEIM was a rich man.

Today his widow and oneson still live in the superb home he shared with them in Baden Baden. After the war, and undetected, Heim became one of the prominent figures in the town where he opened a medical centre.

In 1962, however, the authorities discovered his past and moved to arrest him. On the night before he was to be taken into custody he received a phone call from a friend in high places (we will never know who) warning him... and the hunt that was to last 45 years was on.

The legend that Heim is still alive persists. There were alleged sightings in Latin America as recently as 2006. I know, because of my role in his capture, that Heim was killed in 1982.

He was snatched from a hospital in Quebec. I travelled with him in a private plane to Los Angeles and then on to the island of Catalina, just off the coast, where another group of comrades took over.

He faced trial and was then executed. Why, you may ask, did we make him stand trial?

It was felt that Nazis should be made to confront those they abused and tortured. I was not present when he was killed and I did not know where they disposed of his body.

It was essential that no trace should be left and no place marked where future generations of Nazis and other sick sympathisers could congregate. My work was done.

I had been one of those who had hunted him down, captured him and handed him on to meet his fate.

That is the end of the matter but it must be remembered that Heim kept his liberty so long because he was supported by powerful networks.continues here

Perhaps it is not only “the community” that never forgets, perhaps there is indeed an ongoing war and it has not yet ended ,there are those whom scoff at notions of an owned press, that dismiss such allegations as the ravings of the, “tin foil hat brigade”, yet can any other group of killers get such favourable attention. One must remember that elements of the Jewish community aided and abetted by treacherous gentiles, carried out the most brutal of campaigns against those from the right, even today old men are hunted and Jewish elements rabble rouse, commit violence and seek to inhibit the people’s voice.

Certainly it matters little, for their evil acts cannot and indeed must not be allowed to silence dissent, what right have they to kill, maim and Propagandise their rubbish, based upon Jewish logic, is it not right for the right to establish a group dedicated to avenging those killed by Jewish murderers or indeed perhaps the Islamic community, should send out assassins in the name of their dead. Yet in both cases there will not be the fourth estate crowing over their deeds, yet Jewish killers are celebrated, no thought is given to their evil deeds,deeds wherein men and women died, individuals were seriously injured and evil was committed.

I wish some would wake up to the hypocrisy, wake up smell the coffee and realise, that this community has and indeed still does commit great harm, if their demands are not met they utilise violence or brainwash others to commit it in their name, oh but they are ever the victims, ever the besieged community, what rubbish, abject and utter rubbish, there is a besieged community and dear reader it is Gentile.